Comments on: Love and Detachment http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/ Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:28:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Father Robin http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/comment-page-1/#comment-517 Father Robin Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:33:22 +0000 http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/#comment-517 ‘The Greeks had different words for Love’s different manifestations. They spoke of ‘agape’, altruistic Love [in Latin caritas] which gives us – but with a cold ring- our word ‘charity’’ They spoke of ‘ludos’, the playful affection of children and of casual lovers, and ‘pragma’, the understanding that exists between long-established married couples. They spoke of ‘storge’, the Love that grows between siblings or comrades-in arms who have been through much together, and of ‘mania’ which is obsession. And they allied that with ‘eros’ or sexual passion. The best and strongest emotional bonds are those of friendship between equals. And that is what the feast of St Valentine is about: the dream of Love. Life would be bitter indeed if the dream never became Reality, or if the main experiences of Love in our lives – storge, pragma, ludus, agape - were not enduring and stabilising enough to save us when the storms of eros and mania sweep over us – bringing bliss, and leaving havoc in their wake’ ‘The Meaning of Things’ A.C Grayling. ‘The Greeks had different words for Love’s different manifestations.

They spoke of ‘agape’, altruistic Love [in Latin caritas] which gives us – but with a cold ring- our word ‘charity’’

They spoke of ‘ludos’, the playful affection of children and of casual lovers, and ‘pragma’, the understanding that exists between long-established married couples.

They spoke of ‘storge’, the Love that grows between siblings or comrades-in arms who have been through much together, and of ‘mania’ which is obsession.

And they allied that with ‘eros’ or sexual passion.

The best and strongest emotional bonds are those of friendship between equals.

And that is what the feast of St Valentine is about: the dream of Love. Life would be bitter indeed if the dream never became Reality, or if the main experiences of Love in our lives – storge, pragma, ludus, agape – were not enduring and stabilising enough to save us when the storms of eros and mania sweep over us – bringing bliss, and leaving havoc in their wake’

‘The Meaning of Things’ A.C Grayling.

]]> By: Father Robin http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/comment-page-1/#comment-223 Father Robin Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:58:46 +0000 http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/#comment-223 Nil problemo. Bibo ergo sum. Nil problemo.

Bibo ergo sum.

]]> By: Ted Scott http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/comment-page-1/#comment-222 Ted Scott Thu, 03 Dec 2009 05:24:22 +0000 http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/#comment-222 Thank you Anne and Greg - I am pleased you found it useful. And Father Robin, I am pleased you have found the text-box at last! Thank you Anne and Greg – I am pleased you found it useful.

And Father Robin, I am pleased you have found the text-box at last!

]]> By: Father Robin http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/comment-page-1/#comment-220 Father Robin Thu, 03 Dec 2009 03:20:17 +0000 http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/#comment-220 If I am I because I am I, and You are You because You are You, Then: I am I, and You are You. But: If i am i because you are you, and you are you because i am i Then: i am not I and you are not You. Menachem Mendel of Kotzk, 19th Century Rabbi If I am I because I am I, and You are You because You are You,
Then:
I am I, and You are You.
But:
If i am i because you are you, and you are you because i am i
Then:
i am not I and you are not You.
Menachem Mendel of Kotzk, 19th Century Rabbi

]]> By: Greg Brown http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/comment-page-1/#comment-219 Greg Brown Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:48:46 +0000 http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/#comment-219 Thanks Ted for the clarity you bring to this far from simple topic. I have heard you and Phil speak on it before and have always understood it at the time but found it very hard to pass on the message to others. Now I will pass on your blog. Just an observation... I see Love being traded in some relationships as a tool to consciously or subconsciously manipulate a partner. I have been guilty of this I am sure. It now seems clear that only a very small part of what is truly Love is being traded the other more important aspects of Love are already absent. Thanks again Ted, a very enlightening blog. Thanks Ted for the clarity you bring to this far from simple topic. I have heard you and Phil speak on it before and have always understood it at the time but found it very hard to pass on the message to others. Now I will pass on your blog.

Just an observation… I see Love being traded in some relationships as a tool to consciously or subconsciously manipulate a partner. I have been guilty of this I am sure. It now seems clear that only a very small part of what is truly Love is being traded the other more important aspects of Love are already absent.

Thanks again Ted, a very enlightening blog.

]]> By: a savage http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/comment-page-1/#comment-218 a savage Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:40:45 +0000 http://tedscott.aampersanda.com/2009/12/02/love-and-detachment/#comment-218 Ted, I enjoy reading your blog immensely, thank you. As well as the presence of the three elements you identify, experiencing love requires letting go of the ego, a killer attachment. Ted, I enjoy reading your blog immensely, thank you. As well as the presence of the three elements you identify, experiencing love requires letting go of the ego, a killer attachment.

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